Holding Boundaries in Your Business!

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  Kaely Harrod 00:04

  Welcome to doula Tips and Tits. This podcast is a place where we answer one question about doula

  work, both to support you and to help you support your clients. I'm Kaely Harrod. I've been supporting

  families in this perinatal space since my oldest was born 12 nearly 13 years ago. I am a birth and

  postpartum doula childbirth educator, La Leche League Leader, and a doula coach. I love guiding and

  supporting doulas as they work out their doula business, it is a tremendous joy to be trusted in this way.

  Thank you for joining us on this journey.

  Kaely Harrod 00:39

  Welcome back to doula Tips and Tits. This episode is kind of a sister episode to the last one. So if you

  have not listened yet to the episode about being your own best boss, I would stop this and go back and

  listen to that one first, and then come back here. So today we're diving into holding boundaries in

  business, and also setting boundaries in business. So first, in order to hold them, you have to have

  them set right now the last episode, we were talking about you being your own best boss, and what that

  looks like for you and and how you kind of honor your needs and, and desires and things like that. So in

  that sense, that is setting and holding boundaries for yourself. Right? So that's kind of one category, I

  want to think about, I want you to think about, I want us to think together about a few different

  categories of holding boundaries. So the first one is essentially what we talked about in the last

  episode, holding boundaries in the sense that you set your business up to be something where you are

  honored and respected and not just working yourself to the bone, right? Because no amount of money

  is worth that. The second kind of category of boundaries is boundaries around your business. So think

  about like things like legality, things like paying like business taxes and business fees and and reporting

  your income accurately. And the way that you approach doula work. So things like your ethics or your

  justice stances, right, your, your inclusion stances, your

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  accessibility stance, like things like that, think about what things matter to you in business, and do you

  hold those boundaries? Now, for me personally, it is way easier for me to hold those boundaries than it

  is for me to not to hold the boundaries around like my own my own needs and desires, right? So one

  way I'll explain this is, oftentimes, I have a mindset of like, I can get this done some other time. Now, I

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  don't That sounds a little bit procrastination ish. But it's not as much that it's more that like, it's fine. I'll

  figure it out and get it done. Right. So it's not as much like I'll do it later, it's more like, I'll take on more

  than I actually have the capacity for, right. And I remember in college being like, it's not a problem, I can

  handle it, I'll do it by myself. And I know part of that is like self preservation, part of that is controlling

  part of that is type a right, there's a little mix of everything there. But also, part of that is essentially

  saying like my need to rest and have downtime and, and like eat well and take good care of my body,

  those things don't come first, they come second or third, right. And so if I continue to have that mindset

  throughout life, I'm of course bringing that into my business as well. Right? So I'm on the journey of of

  changing that mindset and all of life and also in my business. Because it's really easy for me to be like I

  have 1000 things to finish. And so I will stay up late tonight and finish them, because I like having the

  things done, right. And so that is not a sustainable way to do business. And that's something I'm

  working on. That's my own boundary that I don't do well with, is having a cut off time when I will not

  work any longer, right? And really honoring the fact that this work doesn't ever completely finish, right.

  Like there just is always more work to do. So when you're thinking about business boundaries, I want

  you to think about a couple of different things and think about like what are the regulations and

  requirements of the type of business that you have? What are the regulations and requirements of

  maybe your training organization if they have a code of ethics, for instance? And also like what are

  some of the Your personal ethics or standards or like pillars, like important things that are in your

  business? And do you honor those? Right? The next category I want you to think about is boundaries

  with clients. Now, this is a little bit. I don't know, I don't think it's tricky. But it can be tricky. Because it

  depends a little bit on whether your boundaries are your preferences, or they are, like, illegal to do,

  right. So like, as a doula, we have a scope of practice. And there are things that are clearly outside our

  scope. So then those things are things that we are not supposed to be doing, right. So that's a

  boundary that in some ways can be easier to set and hold in for me in my business, because I'm like,

  oh, yeah, doulas aren't allowed to do that, right? Like, I sometimes joke. Joke with clients, when they're

  babies are coming pretty quickly, that like, I'm not supposed to catch babies, right? Like, that's not my

  role. That's like, ideally, not what I'm doing here. Now, I haven't ever had to catch a baby. Thankfully, I

  came very close recently. But I always say that to folks, like that is not my primary role here. That's not

  something that I'm trained in. That's not my role at all. And so I'm trying not to do that, right. Like, I'm

  not trying to catch babies, because that's not what I'm supposed to do. And also, that's not what I'm

  trained to do safely, right. Like, I don't have the skills to do that. That's why I'm not a midwife. That's

  why I'm not an OB, right. That's why I don't have those, like different specialties that are safe and

  trained to do that part of this work. So that is easier for me in some ways, then things like, overnights

  are really hard for my body. And so I don't do them, or this is one that I really struggle with is having a

  day off. And having a client that really wants to shift on that day. Because there is an urgency a little bit

  to someone who's like a brand spanking new parent who's really struggling. And they're like, I really,

  really need some support this week. And then I'm like, Yeah, but I also have some needs this week,

  right. And so it's really easy for me to make exceptions in that scenario, all the time. Now, there are

  situations where it makes sense to make an exception, right, like you just had your baby, your home

  today is the first day you're home, I will squeeze you in, right. But if you're like doing great, your family's

  doing great. And you want a weekend shift, when I don't usually do postpartum shifts on the weekends,

  I need to honor that and hang out with my kids and hang out with my partner and be home relaxing.

  Because ultimately, what I'm doing when I do that is I'm not holding the boundary of spending time with

  my family, I am instead holding the boundary of giving my clients more time than I even have set out to give them that aim and set the expectation to give them right because I usually tell clients, I only work

  during school hours for postpartum shifts. So that's something that they hire me understanding. So if

  they're asking for a shift, and I'm all of a sudden offering them a Sunday afternoon, that's not even part

  of what they expect, necessarily, right? And so in those scenarios, I think it can sometimes be really

  tricky to set a boundary and hold it because we feel a little like we're letting someone down. And

  sometimes they feel like we're letting them down and that it's even harder, right? But the reality is that if

  you don't hold that boundary, you're letting yourself down. And so that's also not okay, and it should be

  something that feels icky to do. Because we need to flex the muscle of honoring ourselves better.

  Okay, so I want you to kind of take some time to think those through we have first the category of

  boundaries with yourself like your own best boss kind of boundaries, the second boundaries with your

  business, like what are the standards that you'll hold? And what things will you and will you not do? And

  then a third boundaries of clients, meaning, you know, how will you interact with them? What kind of

  care do you give? Or can you give, are you willing to give what things are ethically and safely part of

  your job? But also, what are some personal boundaries that you hold with clients and how do you keep

  those strong? Okay. Oh, I just thought of one. So, this is my own personal example that just popped

  into my head. So with clients, this might sound very obvious, but I do not do postpartum shifts when

  someone in the family has a fever. Because my own kids go to school and so and I'm of course like

  Attending births and also during postpartum care. So if I get sick, the cost to me and my family is

  significant. And also if I get sick, and I have germs and I don't know, I have germs yet and I go to other

  families, the cost to those families is also significant. So I have a firm boundary that if a client has a

  fever, or the the sibling has a fever, or the baby has a fever, whoever is ill, with a fever, I do not go to

  them. And so that's just an example of a boundary that I set with clients that I do a pretty good job of

  holding. But I have occasionally had a client that like really needed a shift. And I was like, Oh, I'm so

  sorry. I can support you virtually if you'd like. But I cannot come to you, because I have a hard rule that

  I can't come when someone in the family is feverish. So I hope that helps you kind of start down the

  path of brainstorming. And I will see you in the next episode. Thanks for joining us for this episode of

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  your own medical or legal team for your own needs around your health and your business. We'll see

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This is a sister episode to the one before, so if you haven’t listened to that yet, go give it a listen! We will be discussing the boundaries that come with the privilege of owning your own business. Setting boundaries, especially for those who are people pleasers, can be difficult. We will be diving into tips and tricks for setting boundaries not only with clients but with yourself.

Quote from the show:

“Because it depends a little bit on whether your boundaries are your preferences, or they are, like, illegal to do, right. So like, as a doula, we have a scope of practice. And there are things that are clearly outside our scope. So then those things are things that we are not supposed to be doing, right. So that’s a boundary that in some ways can be easier to set and hold in for me in my business, because I’m like, oh, yeah, doulas aren’t allowed to do that, right? Like, I sometimes joke. Joke with clients, when they’re babies are coming pretty quickly, that like, I’m not supposed to catch babies, right? Like, that’s not my role. That’s like, ideally, not what I’m doing here. Now, I haven’t ever had to catch a baby. Thankfully, I came very close recently. But I always say that to folks, like that is not my primary role here. That’;s not something that I’m trained in. That’s not my role at all. And so I’m trying not to do that, right. Like, I’m not trying to catch babies, because that’s not what I’m supposed to do. And also, that’s not what I’mtrained to do safely, right.”

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